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Joe Keysor's avatar

It is very interesting: people who think that socialism is good reason that Hitler cannot possibly have been a socialist, because he was bad.

However, people who find socialism as evil and destructive have no difficulty identifying socialist tendencies in National Socialism, especially hostility to the free market system and belief in strict government regulation of the economy. So, the capitalists were allowed to keep their businesses and some profits, but they were completely controlled by the government.

Andrei Znamensky's book "Socialism as a Secular Creed: A Modern Global History" as some good information on Hitler's national SOCIALISM.

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Peregrinus's avatar

There are international socialists (Comintern) and national socialists (Germany). Right there for all to see, apparently hidden in plain sight. Mussolini spent a fair amount of time in prison or avoiding prison because of his radical socialist views. A large portion of the groups which Franco consolidated into Flange-JONS-whatever-that-was were ardent with the socialistic stuff.

“Autarchy” - the economic goal of total self-sufficiency favored by Franco and to a certain extent the Nazis, inevitably results in a big shift toward socialism / central control of the economy.

People really need to get the “virtue” and “principles” nonsense out of politics and political history. No, dear, socialists do not “at least have principles” as they slink off into nostalgic failure. They’re politicians. If they had “principles” in the first place, they’d have done something good for their country / society / the proliteriat - like start a business, open a school, join the military, be a volunteer fireman, etc. These supposed “principles” can easily be substituted for “aryan race,” or “perfect communism” without altering the sense of the text.

It’s politics. Not morality. Have morals first and separately, then do politics if you must. (I say don’t bother, read a good book instead).

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